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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:34:00 -
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Hrm... The OP is crying like a baby on the forums when in fact they need a good dose of HTFU and go spend some time actually recruiting newbs in to PVP corps.
Oh wait what? You mean the OP doesn't have PVP corp that recruits newbies with complimentary PVP training?
Oh I see. I suppose nothing will ever come of this threadnaught except more tears on how the bad carebears touched them without ever spending more time to actually... You know... Go out and recruit newbies themselves.
That would be too much effort.
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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:23:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:For the most part, you have these two divisions of people in EVE
1. The petrified of risk
2. The EVE players
I don't know. I've known people who after getting podded get in a 500 million isk ship in an attempt to get revenge only to lose that ship too.
Sure they maybe good for the economy, but the whole situation makes me go "Hrm... That isn't the wisest choice of action."
Well in that regard incursion runners have more risk involved with putting their billion dollar ships on the line than most frigate PVPers do.
But I thought we had come to the conclusion that risk versus reward doesn't matter in EVE.
Anyways, I think your whole premise of your wall of text that you so painstakenly wrote can be dismissed simply for the fact that people cannot simply be catergorized into two simple categories. There are varying shades of risk people are willing to take. It really depends on the individual
Personally, I don't mind losing a 20 million PVP frig or cruiser on a daily basis, but I'm certainly not going to undock in a freighter with over 5 billion worth of officer mods crammed into its juicy hull.
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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:30:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
But the Low Sec Pirates always blast away the newbies and warn them that they are 'not ready' for Low sec yet. And they indeed are not.
Dying as a newbie is fairly painless, they can just have him quickly respawn at a nearby station. As for the whole "not ready" part, the tutorial is suppost teach you and make you ready. Going through an experance of running and fighting through lowsec as well as a live crash course in combat tactics is the best way of doing that.
Painless as in "It was quite painless for me to lose my crappy pinto car, because I have no income to replace it" kind of painless. Sure newbie ships are cheap, but when you start out 1 million isk is a lot of money. If 3 day old player lost his venture, he wouldn't have much to get bank on his feet with other than say begging.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:43:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:So teaching your customer how make good and optimal use of your product is a terrible idea? Good to know your the go-to guy on business advice.
I'm pretty sure there is a warning pop up by default when you try to go to low sec. Other than the odd mission that goes through low-sec, there is nothing CCP is doing to get people into low sec.
The only time I have seen newbies go into low sec without dying is when a corp gets everyone into a fleet for a low sec roam. First you need a corp for that and by default CCP doesn't really do a good job about how to find a good corp.
So no. CCP has no vested interest in sending newbies into low sec and warns them if they wander that way.
Even if CCP made a low sec tutorial (which they won't) it will pale in comparision to what real human interaction will teach you over voice coms.
The issue is not that CCP isn't teaching newbies, its that the player base isn't teaching them.
Really... Its the fault of the players.
The solution? People need to activily recruit into newbie friendly PVP corps that spends time to actually show them how to live in low sec and then not awox them for the lulz.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.04.08 20:19:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
What does tossing 3 day old players into Low have to do with learning anything ?
learning, just like all goonswarm newbies (the best newbies) do, that death is not something to be terrified of in eve
Well isn't it true that Goonswarm pays for PVP ship loss replacements.
I mean its easy to say loss doesn't matter when you have someone bank rolling you.
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I answered my second question with google and a personal inquiry.
You just need to be a SA user for 3 months. Not EVE.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
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